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- **(a) Tile-local gather chain** — substrate-first, needs no amendment. Covers Q1 and bounded functional `*1..k`.
- **(b) A1 amendment naming LOOP-STATE** as the one non-demanded population class (bracketed, single owner, never escapes before ∫). Covers multi-valued hops and unbounded `*`.
- **(c) `ForeignPlane` provenance type** — independent of (a) and (b), and closes a live gap.
- **(c) `ForeignPlane` provenance type** — ⊘ REVISED in Round 2 below: `resident(..)` only, no loop-state variant.
- **(d) Recursion belongs elsewhere:** mask-risc stays non-recursive, and `*` stays refused (RF-*) or lives in a consumer-side driver.

(a) and (c) do not need (b).

## Round 2 (after operator review, same day)

The operator asked for two challenges before anything is chosen: make the falsifier try to break **(a)+(d)**, and audit (c) against the Foreign contract's own history, not Rust type compatibility.

### (c) — premise audit, PREMISE-WRONG on "a computed `Out::Mask` is a `ForeignPlane`"

**The history** (commit text quoted):
- `663b8792` (2026-09-21) sanctioned the identification: `ScatterOrU32` output "a follow-on program then reads it back as a [`ForeignPlane`]".
- `a9a3e9d4` withdrew it the same day: "`foreign` must name a RESIDENT plane the caller holds … never a mask another program produced". That commit also deleted the Keep → foreign plane → Gather pipeline in favour of the factored `EqU32Via`.

**Signatures.** Foreign is caller-held standing state (frame-like). A computed mask and a loop iterate are motion: the writer is the executor or a loop, and they live for one run or one step. Tests 1–4 all fire.

**Mechanical vs semantic.** Physical compatibility (`&[u64]`, pub fields, `ir.rs:86-92`) is a found contract smell, not an established equivalence.

**Repair, correctly named:**
- **R1:** `ForeignPlane::resident(..)` is the ONLY constructor, and the fields become private. Precedent: dir-sim's `Kept` `compile_fail`.

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P2 Badge Make the resident constructor enforce provenance

Making the fields private while exposing ForeignPlane::resident(..) does not prevent the defect this repair is meant to close: a caller can pass the slice backing a freshly produced Out::Mask to that constructor before the next execution. The proposed struct-literal compile-fail and the P-SEAM check for a “raw” literal would both pass even though the forbidden Keep/output-to-Gather pipeline still compiles. The constructor must require provenance that an output buffer cannot supply, or this must remain documented as an unenforced precondition rather than described as closing the gap.

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- **R2:** a computed same-query plane gets no type and stays refused; chains are lowered in factored form.
- **R3:** only on measured need, a separate motion type that never converts to `ForeignPlane`.

⊘ The earlier "loop-state variant ON `ForeignPlane`" would have re-sealed the withdrawn claim. It is struck.

**Live use, checked:** the only `ForeignPlane {` literals are in `mask-risc/tests/{foreign,extent}.rs`, quack's test module and dir-sim doctests. All of them wrap resident fixture planes. So the gap is open, but no production caller uses it.

### (a)+(d) — falsifier round 2: nothing requires mask-risc to OWN loop state

| case | verdict | reason |
|---|---|---|
| bounded `*1..k`, multi-valued / reverse lane | SURVIVES via (d) | (a) costs L^k per row; a double-buffered kernel loop is deterministic. Push-only relations stay refused (A2 / RF-CHAIN) under every option, (b) included. |
| reachability, then `AND pred` and `GROUP BY` | **breaks (d) as worded; SURVIVES as d′** | If the kernel returns `v_k`, the next fold could have consumed that population tile by tile: A1 by its letter. d′: for bounded k the kernel returns `v_{k-1}` (a true pipeline breaker), and mask-risc fuses the last step with pred and the fold. For unbounded `*`, returning the converged iterate is legitimate (convergence is a global test). |
| cycle-sensitive `*1..` lower bound | SURVIVES | Seed `v_0 = ∅`, `v_1 = G(start)`. Already in the P-REUSE fixture. |
| §4.2, D-CML-5/5a, OQ-CML-4 | SURVIVES | §4.2 is a (d) driver. 5a and OQ-CML-4 are prerequisites for both. |
| **node-filtered reachability** (`ALL(n IN nodes(p) WHERE P(n))`), not in v2's table | **breaks (a)+(d)** | Under (d), Quack must sink P as a whole plane that the step could consume tile-locally: A1. Calling the kernel "demanding" P would make A1 a guard that never fires. |

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P2 Badge Keep the recomputation arm from counting as a break

This case does not establish that (a)+(d) breaks: the subsequently specified F2 arm recomputes P from its resident row field tile-by-tile during each external-kernel step, which satisfies A1 without sinking a whole predicate plane and still computes reachability on the P-induced subgraph. F1 may eventually prove faster, but that unmeasured performance prediction does not make F2 invalid, so this row cannot support the following conclusion that node-filtered reachability requires b-lite.

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**What (b) would still buy:** nothing measurable predicted; only A1 conformance at the seam. The two breaking cases need **b-lite**: a kernel-owned iterate READ by mask-risc through a named type that is neither `ForeignPlane` nor `Kept`. That is exactly the auditor's **R3**, and a type that names provenance cannot prove it.

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Limit the b-lite claim to node-filtered reachability.

The bounded reachability/fold case in the table is handled by d′. Only the node-filtered case remains a possible reason for b-lite, subject to the open Quack and A1 questions.

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+The node-filtered reachability case may need **b-lite**: a kernel-owned iterate READ by mask-risc through a named type that is neither `ForeignPlane` nor `Kept`. Whether Quack can express this case and whether the iterate is A1-clean remain open. The bounded reachability/fold case is handled by d′ above.
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**New probes** (pre-registered):
- **P-SEAM:**
- n = 65,536, functional fk plus a 4-lane variant, predicate plus group key, k = 8.
- Arms: S1 (kernel returns `v_k`, then fold) vs S2 (d′).
- Exact against scalar BFS plus scalar group sum.
- S1 holds exactly one more population buffer.

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P2 Badge Account for equal population-buffer peaks

The stated extra buffer does not follow from these arms. A double-buffered S1 kernel uses v_{k-1} and v_k while computing and retains v_k for the fold; S2 uses two buffers through step k-1 and retains v_{k-1} for the fused final step. Both therefore peak at two population buffers and retain one afterward unless S1 is deliberately implemented with an unnecessarily live scratch buffer. As written, this assertion will misclassify the P-SEAM memory result and should be replaced with explicit lifetime accounting.

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- Kill d′ if S2 needs a raw `ForeignPlane` literal.
- Kill the claim that (b) or b-lite buys cost if S1 − S2 < 2 %.
- **P-FILTERED:**
- A 4-lane pull carrier, P at 50 % on a row field.
- Arms: F1 (sink P whole) vs F2 (P recomputed per tile per step).
- Exact against BFS on the P-induced subgraph.
- Prediction: F1 is faster. So b-lite buys conformance, not speed.

**Open:**
- Whether Quack can express node-filtered variable length at all. If it cannot, that case is hypothetical.
- Whether a kernel-owned whole iterate passed into mask-risc is itself A1-clean. The falsifier calls it a pipeline breaker, but A1 says "a caller-owned bitmap is still materialisation". That is the operator's ruling, and it is the same question as (b) at smaller scope.

### Option set after Round 2 (premise gate: includes "belongs elsewhere")

- **(a) GatherChain** — strong candidate. Substrate-first, no A1 change. Covers fixed k and bounded `*1..k` over functional hops.
- **(c′) `ForeignPlane::resident` only** (R1, plus R2 refusal) — independent, closes the gap without naming a false equivalence.
- **(d′) recursion in an external kernel** — complements (a); not an alternative to it. Bounded k hands `v_{k-1}`; mask-risc fuses the last step.
- **b-lite (= R3)** — a typed, kernel-owned iterate readable by mask-risc. Only if P-SEAM or P-FILTERED shows need. It is a smaller decision than (b), but still a contract decision.
- **(b) full loop state inside mask-risc** — no case found that needs it. Held.
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